I was less enamored by the finale than the two of you. I was glad they answered many of the questions, but when I look at it with any detail, a lot seems to be more symbolic/convenient than making any sense. Like, how did the women know that "all" of the scientists killed Annie? And if they took them all out into the snow as a response to the poisoning of the water, not necessarily the murder, how did they figure that out in a couple minutes of being in the underground workshop? Also, the whole discovery of the 3-finger hand-print on the hatch door was hard to believe. With as many times as Clark went in and out of the hatch, there's no way a clean hand-print would be seen.
Also, they drove out seemingly way out in the snow on mining land and it led to just beneath Tsalal? That was hard to buy. It's not like they were walking miles in underground tunnels to get there.
Regarding Navarro, I don't think she's dead. It was the exact reason you gave, Beth, her learning of the meaning of her name, that leads me to think she just started a new life for herself. To end her life would be to give in to the darkness that her sister (and ostensibly her mother) did. The last scene was Danvers and her daughter on vacation, no? Maybe the vacation spot is where Navarro now lives. Also, it leaves it open for her to be involved if there is a part 2.
Provocative discussion! There's so much to talk about! Like how if a polar bear appears in a show, it's going to be a red herring. Just like Lost.
I read somewhere (I can’t remember) that the show runner began developing the story, and then later it was brought into the True Detective universe which meant some “true detective” elements needed to be introduced. It did feel disjointed in some areas, which might be explained by this.
I loved the vibe of the show, which allowed me to enjoy it while forgiving some of the plot holes. As Roger Ebert once said, it made sense in the universe of the movie, but you can’t think too hard about it after leaving the experience.
I love this quote and it totally tracks that the story was first being developed outside of the “True Detective” -verse. Might also further illuminate some of the original showrunner’s antithetical comments regarding this season’s direction
There were so many Swiss cheese holes in the ending - I kinda thing it was one of those things where they were like we know the story we want to tell, now let’s make it all work. Polar bears were fake. I mean right?
I loved this season of True Detective and was wondering if you’d write about it!
I saw someone on threads say, “I need a spin-off show about Rose,” and I agree! I’m curious how we know Travis is Mathew McConaghy’s dad from season one? It’s not the first time I’ve heard this said, but I don’t remember season one enough to have picked up on any clue for this.
So glad you watched and enjoyed. The finale sealed the deal for me as far as my verdict on this season. It was really good. The Travis Cohle connection with Rust in S1 is by way of Rust’s mentions of growing up in Alaska with his father. I went back and watched the finale from season 1 and in it, he talks about how the sky was so clear you could see all the stars and there not being much to do for a kid so he would watch the stars. I’m not sure if Travis’s name comes up in season 1 but definitely the Alaska upbringing and his father being dead and him joining him in the afterlife. (After Rust gets stabbed by Childress) The Tuttle corp connection thrown into the Silver Sky mix was also an Easter egg from s1 (the Tuttles were behind the cult) but never went very far
I was less enamored by the finale than the two of you. I was glad they answered many of the questions, but when I look at it with any detail, a lot seems to be more symbolic/convenient than making any sense. Like, how did the women know that "all" of the scientists killed Annie? And if they took them all out into the snow as a response to the poisoning of the water, not necessarily the murder, how did they figure that out in a couple minutes of being in the underground workshop? Also, the whole discovery of the 3-finger hand-print on the hatch door was hard to believe. With as many times as Clark went in and out of the hatch, there's no way a clean hand-print would be seen.
Also, they drove out seemingly way out in the snow on mining land and it led to just beneath Tsalal? That was hard to buy. It's not like they were walking miles in underground tunnels to get there.
Regarding Navarro, I don't think she's dead. It was the exact reason you gave, Beth, her learning of the meaning of her name, that leads me to think she just started a new life for herself. To end her life would be to give in to the darkness that her sister (and ostensibly her mother) did. The last scene was Danvers and her daughter on vacation, no? Maybe the vacation spot is where Navarro now lives. Also, it leaves it open for her to be involved if there is a part 2.
Provocative discussion! There's so much to talk about! Like how if a polar bear appears in a show, it's going to be a red herring. Just like Lost.
I read somewhere (I can’t remember) that the show runner began developing the story, and then later it was brought into the True Detective universe which meant some “true detective” elements needed to be introduced. It did feel disjointed in some areas, which might be explained by this.
I loved the vibe of the show, which allowed me to enjoy it while forgiving some of the plot holes. As Roger Ebert once said, it made sense in the universe of the movie, but you can’t think too hard about it after leaving the experience.
I love this quote and it totally tracks that the story was first being developed outside of the “True Detective” -verse. Might also further illuminate some of the original showrunner’s antithetical comments regarding this season’s direction
Steve
There were so many Swiss cheese holes in the ending - I kinda thing it was one of those things where they were like we know the story we want to tell, now let’s make it all work. Polar bears were fake. I mean right?
I loved this season of True Detective and was wondering if you’d write about it!
I saw someone on threads say, “I need a spin-off show about Rose,” and I agree! I’m curious how we know Travis is Mathew McConaghy’s dad from season one? It’s not the first time I’ve heard this said, but I don’t remember season one enough to have picked up on any clue for this.
I like the spin-off idea!
So glad you watched and enjoyed. The finale sealed the deal for me as far as my verdict on this season. It was really good. The Travis Cohle connection with Rust in S1 is by way of Rust’s mentions of growing up in Alaska with his father. I went back and watched the finale from season 1 and in it, he talks about how the sky was so clear you could see all the stars and there not being much to do for a kid so he would watch the stars. I’m not sure if Travis’s name comes up in season 1 but definitely the Alaska upbringing and his father being dead and him joining him in the afterlife. (After Rust gets stabbed by Childress) The Tuttle corp connection thrown into the Silver Sky mix was also an Easter egg from s1 (the Tuttles were behind the cult) but never went very far